ID: 1390 [see the .xml file]
Identifier: NLW 2594E, Merionethshire folder
Description: 'Cwm Bychan': material in the hand of John Lloyd, n.d.
Previous letter: 1389
Next letter: 1391
Cite: 'John Lloyd, Caerwys, to Thomas Pennant date unknown' in Curious Travellers Digital Editions [editions.curioustravellers.ac.uk/doc/1390]

Page 40. Vol: 1st –1
Cwm Bychan

Our Books of Pedigree mention the Llwyds of Cwmebychan as descended from Cadwgan son to Blethyn ap Cynfyn Prince of Northwales & Powys. – this Cadwgan is sometime stil,d Lord of Nanney, I suppose he resided ^there some time, most likely in the House afterwards occupied ^by Howel Sele, which was burnt by O: Glyndwr, 2 & never afterwards rebuilt, the Remains of it are to been [sic] in Nanney Park.

He chiefly in the beginning of his ^life resided in this Country, & Jointly with his brothers & sons made[...] terrible & Bloody efforts towards the sovereinty [sic] of the Country, it is probablye that Cwm. Bychan Drws Ardudwy &c were chief of their strong holds. In the latter part of his days he became Prince of Southwales, & was slain by treachery some where near Oswestry. – I know not for Certain from which of his sons we are descended.3

In Ffarwel Dai Llwyd we have the date of one of our Welsh Tunes It was compos,d as I was Inform,d when he went with Jasper Tudor & Owain Lawgoch to fight with Rhisiart Fradwr. viz Richard the Traytor.4 – I see a mistake in a note of yours, in regard to Dafydd y Garreg wên [sic], it is a very modern Tune, many People living remember the composer, I think he was a Fidler [sic]. – Quære whether Cwm bychan was not the last residence of the wild Deer,5 as it is likely to be of ^the dear Goats in this Country.


Editorial notes

1. If this pagination refers to Cwm Bychan, it does not coincide with the section on the Cwm in the published Tour, which is found at A tour in Wales 1770 [1773] (1778), II, pp. 114–120.
2. For Pennant's account of the treachery of Howel Sele of Nannau, Merionethshire, and Glyndwr's punitive response, see A tour in Wales 1770 [1773] (1778), I, pp. 324–5.
3. Further on John Lloyd's descent from Cadwgan ap Bleddyn, see 1386.
4. For Pennant's direct use of this material, see A tour in Wales 1770 [1773] (1778), II, p. 116.
5. See A tour in Wales 1770 [1773] (1778), II, p. 117, where Pennant notes of Cwm Bychan that deer 'formerly abounded in these parts. Nor have they long been extinct; a person of the last generation informed my host, that he had seen eighteen at once, grazing in the meadow'.