ID: 1478 [see the .xml file]
Identifier: WCRO CR 2017 /TP22, item 2
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Cite: 'John Jones to Thomas Pennant 21 November 1777' in Curious Travellers Digital Editions [editions.curioustravellers.ac.uk/doc/1478]

Sir

I have this moment received the MS of Mr Price which was unfortunately mislaid during our Preparation for the annual visitation of the Bodleian and not found 'till this morning. In the next Page you will find an Extract out of it containing an account of the Denbighshire Families. In my Letter of the 21 Oct:1 I sent you some Account of Dod^sworth's Collection. For further particulars relative to it I refer you ^to Gough's Anecdotes of British Topography under the Article Yorkshire, and to pag 798 of Hearne's Preface to ^the Appendix to Leland's Collectanea part 2d.2

I find but very little matter relative to Wales in it, among other Articles a transcript of Carta Edw 1mi concedens Castellum de Ruthin Reginaldo de Grey. Anno 10 Edw. 1mi3 which I will transcrible for you if you think proper. I have [...] been able as yet to find whether the Shield upon Ithel F[...] [...]omb contains the Arms of any religious Order. I am with great Respect

Sir
your most obedient humble Servant

John Jones

T. Pennant Esqr.


T. Pennant Esqr.

Marginalia

The enclosure mentioned in the first paragraph of the letter contains material relating to Denbighshire extracted from George Owen, The Number of the Hundreds, Castells, Parish Churches and ffayres ... in all the Shiers of Wales (1602), also known as the Description of Wales. See a copy in the Gentleman's Magazine, vol. 93, part 2 (1823), pp. 512–13; and further DWB s.n. George Owen. The material is not in John Jones's hand, but in the hand which directed the letter to Pennant.


Editorial notes

1. See 1431.
2. See Richard Gough, Anecdotes of British topography (London, 1768), pp. 543–4; and 'The Publisher's Præliminary Observations', in Thomas Hearne (ed.), Joannis Lelandi antiquarii de rebus Britannicis collectanea (6 vols., Oxonii, 1715), Vol. VI: Appendicis ad Joannis Lelandi Angiquarii Collectanea: Pars Secunda, pp. 52–95, esp. pp. 78–9. Gough gives a biography of Roger Dodsworth and Thomas Hearne muses over Dodsworth's 'Collections (comprized in 162. Volumes, most of them in Folio) that are preserved in the Bodleian Library'. These Dodsworth consistently augmented through his researches but left unpublished at his death. They were posthumously published by 'the equally famous Sir William Dugdale, who added a third Volume, which is wholly owing to himself'.
3. 'A Charter of Edward Ist granting the Castle of Ruthin to Reginald Grey. Ten[th year of the reign of] Edward 1st.' Edward 1's bestowal of Ruthin castle on Grey in 1281 is mentioned in A tour in Wales 1770 [1773], I, p. 53.